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	<title>Comments on: The wave of the future&#8230;Eco and Reverse Camber it up.</title>
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	<description>The World of Snowboarding Through Fembot Eyes</description>
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		<title>By: Shayboarder.com - The World of Snowboarding Through Fembot Eyes &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A look back at my 2008-2009 season</title>
		<link>http://www.shayboarder.com/2009/02/wave-of-futureeco-and-reverse-camber-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-3048</link>
		<dc:creator>Shayboarder.com - The World of Snowboarding Through Fembot Eyes &#187; Blog Archive &#187; A look back at my 2008-2009 season</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 04:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Eco and Reverse:  Quite the discussion and input on this post about eco friendly boards and reverse camber technology. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: truthseeker</title>
		<link>http://www.shayboarder.com/2009/02/wave-of-futureeco-and-reverse-camber-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-2573</link>
		<dc:creator>truthseeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 01:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well anonymous it seems that you are full of BS cos there are far more advantages to a properly constructed snowboard than  just a soft mid flex in moguls like float in pow and edge hold on ice to name but a few. If it was such BS why did you ride it for years. Change your name to BSer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well anonymous it seems that you are full of BS cos there are far more advantages to a properly constructed snowboard than  just a soft mid flex in moguls like float in pow and edge hold on ice to name but a few. If it was such BS why did you ride it for years. Change your name to BSer!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.shayboarder.com/2009/02/wave-of-futureeco-and-reverse-camber-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-2394</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 10:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I rode an Inca for years. It was all BS. All that was good was the soft middle for moguls. The recommended lengths were stupid. You flatten out the two cambers and you still have a cambered board. Tried the board again 2 years ago. It was awful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rode an Inca for years. It was all BS. All that was good was the soft middle for moguls. The recommended lengths were stupid. You flatten out the two cambers and you still have a cambered board. Tried the board again 2 years ago. It was awful.</p>
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		<title>By: truthseeker</title>
		<link>http://www.shayboarder.com/2009/02/wave-of-futureeco-and-reverse-camber-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-2323</link>
		<dc:creator>truthseeker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 06:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey I knew the first day i rode one in 2000 that two cambered snowboards were physically correct for snowboarding unlike the single cambered ski boards pumped out to he masses! Rocker.... a step in the right direction add C2 ( two cambers ) like INCA did first now Never Summer, Mervin, Nitro and others have finally woken up and started building their boards more correctly for snowboarding. They should all really license the tech invented by Don Stubblefield! Personally I&#039;d hate to see riders disadvantaged cos of patent suits as I believe that all riders deserve to have the advantages that having 2 cambers and of course the rocker in the middle that links them. The future of snowboarding has a camber under each foot and if yr rocker board has only rocker you are missing out on independent suspension and superior weight distribution 2 cambers bring to a snowboard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey I knew the first day i rode one in 2000 that two cambered snowboards were physically correct for snowboarding unlike the single cambered ski boards pumped out to he masses! Rocker&#8230;. a step in the right direction add C2 ( two cambers ) like INCA did first now Never Summer, Mervin, Nitro and others have finally woken up and started building their boards more correctly for snowboarding. They should all really license the tech invented by Don Stubblefield! Personally I&#8217;d hate to see riders disadvantaged cos of patent suits as I believe that all riders deserve to have the advantages that having 2 cambers and of course the rocker in the middle that links them. The future of snowboarding has a camber under each foot and if yr rocker board has only rocker you are missing out on independent suspension and superior weight distribution 2 cambers bring to a snowboard</p>
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		<title>By: Shayboarder</title>
		<link>http://www.shayboarder.com/2009/02/wave-of-futureeco-and-reverse-camber-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-1827</link>
		<dc:creator>Shayboarder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 02:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha yes I really post here.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I just visited Mervin Manufacturing yesterday and will be writing up about it including their green efforts as a factory.  It was good to see in person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha yes I really post here.  </p>
<p>I just visited Mervin Manufacturing yesterday and will be writing up about it including their green efforts as a factory.  It was good to see in person.</p>
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		<title>By: A.</title>
		<link>http://www.shayboarder.com/2009/02/wave-of-futureeco-and-reverse-camber-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-1826</link>
		<dc:creator>A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 23:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MERVS ARE HELLA_GREEN THEY RECYCLING IDEAS IS WHAT YOURE SAYING.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;OOPS NO I DIDNT SAY THAT--COME WITH THE SK8NANNER SORRY &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;THE WHOLE WORLD BEEN RECYCLING MY STYLES FOR ABOUT FIFTEEN PLUS.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;F.U.P.M.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;THE ONLY GREEN I NEED IS DOLLARS.  SO I CAN PAY FOR ALL THIS EXTRA ELECTRICITY ALL YALL RETARD BLOWHARDS ARE MAKING MY COMPUTERSCREEN USE AS I READ THIS BULLSHIT.  AKA I KNEAD DOUGH SUCKERS &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;ETC&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;WHERE THE BLOGS AT&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;FUCKIN WHAT&#039;S GREENER: ME STILL RIDING A HANDMEDOWN BOARD FROM THE O OR BUYING A BRAND NEW QUIVER OF ELECTRIC HYBRIDS?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;ED BEGLEY JR GOT A SICK FLAPPED OUT METHOD&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;HEY DOES SHAYBOARDER REALLY POST HERE?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MERVS ARE HELLA_GREEN THEY RECYCLING IDEAS IS WHAT YOURE SAYING.  </p>
<p>OOPS NO I DIDNT SAY THAT&#8211;COME WITH THE SK8NANNER SORRY </p>
<p>THE WHOLE WORLD BEEN RECYCLING MY STYLES FOR ABOUT FIFTEEN PLUS.</p>
<p>F.U.P.M.</p>
<p>THE ONLY GREEN I NEED IS DOLLARS.  SO I CAN PAY FOR ALL THIS EXTRA ELECTRICITY ALL YALL RETARD BLOWHARDS ARE MAKING MY COMPUTERSCREEN USE AS I READ THIS BULLSHIT.  AKA I KNEAD DOUGH SUCKERS </p>
<p>ETC</p>
<p>WHERE THE BLOGS AT</p>
<p>FUCKIN WHAT&#8217;S GREENER: ME STILL RIDING A HANDMEDOWN BOARD FROM THE O OR BUYING A BRAND NEW QUIVER OF ELECTRIC HYBRIDS?</p>
<p>ED BEGLEY JR GOT A SICK FLAPPED OUT METHOD</p>
<p>HEY DOES SHAYBOARDER REALLY POST HERE?</p>
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		<title>By: Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.shayboarder.com/2009/02/wave-of-futureeco-and-reverse-camber-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-1825</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 19:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m just glad to see the environmental discussion taking place. It&#039;s an important one to have. Something&#039;s happening and it affects us intimately. I&#039;ve learned more from this comment board than many other sources. Still, there is so much out there and this is only a problem we can tackle by &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://boredyak.blogspot.com/2009/02/politics-of-eco.html&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pooling our resources&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just glad to see the environmental discussion taking place. It&#8217;s an important one to have. Something&#8217;s happening and it affects us intimately. I&#8217;ve learned more from this comment board than many other sources. Still, there is so much out there and this is only a problem we can tackle by <a HREF="http://boredyak.blogspot.com/2009/02/politics-of-eco.html" REL="nofollow">pooling our resources</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.shayboarder.com/2009/02/wave-of-futureeco-and-reverse-camber-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-1627</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Brad!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for the perspective from inside Salomon. It&#039;s always nice to get the other side of the story. It&#039;s interesting because I think Burton is following a similar philosophy with a lot of their eco stuff: trying to respect Nicholas Mueller. That&#039;s what it&#039;s ultimately going to come down to, unless people start asking for it, no one is going to make it. Not only pros but average consumers have to start demanding it. Meanwhile, from the other end, manufacturers have to give the consumers a reason to demand it. Economics is confusing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Brad!</p>
<p>Thanks for the perspective from inside Salomon. It&#8217;s always nice to get the other side of the story. It&#8217;s interesting because I think Burton is following a similar philosophy with a lot of their eco stuff: trying to respect Nicholas Mueller. That&#8217;s what it&#8217;s ultimately going to come down to, unless people start asking for it, no one is going to make it. Not only pros but average consumers have to start demanding it. Meanwhile, from the other end, manufacturers have to give the consumers a reason to demand it. Economics is confusing.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 22:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nice brad, i was saying that to some people at sia, how my kidwell and my sims 1650 fe were both rockerd to the moon, not to mention my flight comp/rocket that i got from rob lavigne in like 84. if you remember , a full season of nose rides on a kidwell would give you more bannana looking tech that olson and saari could handle. good to see you in vegas too, been way to long. &lt;br/&gt;todd richards</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nice brad, i was saying that to some people at sia, how my kidwell and my sims 1650 fe were both rockerd to the moon, not to mention my flight comp/rocket that i got from rob lavigne in like 84. if you remember , a full season of nose rides on a kidwell would give you more bannana looking tech that olson and saari could handle. good to see you in vegas too, been way to long. <br />todd richards</p>
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		<title>By: Shayboarder</title>
		<link>http://www.shayboarder.com/2009/02/wave-of-futureeco-and-reverse-camber-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-1614</link>
		<dc:creator>Shayboarder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 21:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Brad for your comment, it was really good to meet you in Vegas and now hearing your input on both rocker and eco.  It&#039;s interesting to see the arguments of who did rocker first and I don&#039;t think it matters except to those who want bragging rights.  Rad to hear about your work with the original Sims Kidwell boards with rocker.  I appreciate the salomon/bonfire isn&#039;t claiming when it comes to eco and opening up to both sides without being totally unrealistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Brad for your comment, it was really good to meet you in Vegas and now hearing your input on both rocker and eco.  It&#8217;s interesting to see the arguments of who did rocker first and I don&#8217;t think it matters except to those who want bragging rights.  Rad to hear about your work with the original Sims Kidwell boards with rocker.  I appreciate the salomon/bonfire isn&#8217;t claiming when it comes to eco and opening up to both sides without being totally unrealistic.</p>
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