Comments on: The state of the industry with John Cavan http://www.shayboarder.com/2009/09/the-state-of-the-industry-with-john-cavan.html The World of Snowboarding Through Fembot Eyes Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:05:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: The end of 2009 and the beginning of 2010 – Shayboarder.com http://www.shayboarder.com/2009/09/the-state-of-the-industry-with-john-cavan.html/comment-page-1#comment-17881 The end of 2009 and the beginning of 2010 – Shayboarder.com Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:57:15 +0000 http://www.shayboarder.com/?p=7480#comment-17881 [...] John Cavan [...] [...] John Cavan [...]

]]> By: Team Videos http://www.shayboarder.com/2009/09/the-state-of-the-industry-with-john-cavan.html/comment-page-1#comment-9075 Team Videos Thu, 08 Oct 2009 14:53:22 +0000 http://www.shayboarder.com/?p=7480#comment-9075 Mike, I like Cavan as well. He is a cool guy that paid his dues. He has my respect. However, the industry is changing and the faster people get with it the better off they'll be. Hard copy DVD's are doomed and everyone knows it. Stop charging kids so much and increase your numbers. It's simple, practical and solution providing scenario to make it a download. Shit charge, 1.99 if you have to. Also, I'm not going to list off what shots were miine, that would be pretty telling of who I am and obviously I don't want them to know. I don't care enough to bitch and complain to them, just a point that they get lots of footy for free and whining about people stealing from them is extremely contradicting when they are stealing from other people who were told that they'd be "working" for them. I'm over it, but yeah, would never buy a ROME movie, especially a ROME product. I don't have time or cash to burn on a company that has lost control over their rapid growth. Mike, I like Cavan as well. He is a cool guy that paid his dues. He has my respect. However, the industry is changing and the faster people get with it the better off they’ll be. Hard copy DVD’s are doomed and everyone knows it. Stop charging kids so much and increase your numbers. It’s simple, practical and solution providing scenario to make it a download. Shit charge, 1.99 if you have to.

Also, I’m not going to list off what shots were miine, that would be pretty telling of who I am and obviously I don’t want them to know. I don’t care enough to bitch and complain to them, just a point that they get lots of footy for free and whining about people stealing from them is extremely contradicting when they are stealing from other people who were told that they’d be “working” for them. I’m over it, but yeah, would never buy a ROME movie, especially a ROME product. I don’t have time or cash to burn on a company that has lost control over their rapid growth.

]]> By: Chad P http://www.shayboarder.com/2009/09/the-state-of-the-industry-with-john-cavan.html/comment-page-1#comment-9006 Chad P Wed, 07 Oct 2009 19:20:07 +0000 http://www.shayboarder.com/?p=7480#comment-9006 Yeah I don't think you can put the words "pompous and jerk" in the same sentence when speaking about Cavan Yeah I don’t think you can put the words “pompous and jerk” in the same sentence when speaking about Cavan

]]> By: Johnny Bowles http://www.shayboarder.com/2009/09/the-state-of-the-industry-with-john-cavan.html/comment-page-1#comment-8969 Johnny Bowles Wed, 07 Oct 2009 07:23:31 +0000 http://www.shayboarder.com/?p=7480#comment-8969 Cavan a pompous jerk? He's probably the most down-to-earth dude in the industry. Cavan a pompous jerk? He’s probably the most down-to-earth dude in the industry.

]]> By: Max Legend and Yan Dofin part ways with Rome | Snowboarding Blog http://www.shayboarder.com/2009/09/the-state-of-the-industry-with-john-cavan.html/comment-page-1#comment-8958 Max Legend and Yan Dofin part ways with Rome | Snowboarding Blog Wed, 07 Oct 2009 01:31:23 +0000 http://www.shayboarder.com/?p=7480#comment-8958 [...] Not sure how I missed this one, but I was browsing my most-frequented sites this week and found an interview on Shayboarder with Rome Snowboards Team Manager/Filmer John Cavan. [...] [...] Not sure how I missed this one, but I was browsing my most-frequented sites this week and found an interview on Shayboarder with Rome Snowboards Team Manager/Filmer John Cavan. [...]

]]> By: adam balon http://www.shayboarder.com/2009/09/the-state-of-the-industry-with-john-cavan.html/comment-page-1#comment-8893 adam balon Tue, 06 Oct 2009 02:32:06 +0000 http://www.shayboarder.com/?p=7480#comment-8893 jonovan was prob rome's worst cut in their short time as a company. a rider like jonovan only gets better over time. well said ballpark. you sound like someone i might know....... jonovan was prob rome’s worst cut in their short time as a company. a rider like jonovan only gets better over time. well said ballpark. you sound like someone i might know…….

]]> By: Mike http://www.shayboarder.com/2009/09/the-state-of-the-industry-with-john-cavan.html/comment-page-1#comment-8889 Mike Tue, 06 Oct 2009 01:39:13 +0000 http://www.shayboarder.com/?p=7480#comment-8889 "Team Video" I don't really follow your rationale it doesn't really make any kind of real world business sense. I've also worked with Cavan and Rome on both Rome films (and other films) what shots did u film? that doesn't seem like a real story......Just saying “Team Video” I don’t really follow your rationale it doesn’t really make any kind of real world business sense. I’ve also worked with Cavan and Rome on both Rome films (and other films) what shots did u film? that doesn’t seem like a real story……Just saying

]]> By: Lance http://www.shayboarder.com/2009/09/the-state-of-the-industry-with-john-cavan.html/comment-page-1#comment-8877 Lance Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:38:34 +0000 http://www.shayboarder.com/?p=7480#comment-8877 I've met John and if I said he was a pompous jerk it would be because of his fidelity to the Celtics and not because of his attitude. And about downloading... Snowboarding movies cost a lot of money to make with travel, salaries, equipment, etc. (plus they're stressful as hell to produce) and a lot of times when some of your favorite movies throw in the towel, it could have been prevented if some people who downloaded it would just purchase it instead. I’ve met John and if I said he was a pompous jerk it would be because of his fidelity to the Celtics and not because of his attitude.

And about downloading… Snowboarding movies cost a lot of money to make with travel, salaries, equipment, etc. (plus they’re stressful as hell to produce) and a lot of times when some of your favorite movies throw in the towel, it could have been prevented if some people who downloaded it would just purchase it instead.

]]> By: Team Videos http://www.shayboarder.com/2009/09/the-state-of-the-industry-with-john-cavan.html/comment-page-1#comment-8874 Team Videos Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:26:41 +0000 http://www.shayboarder.com/?p=7480#comment-8874 I think any "Team" Video should be free. It just makes sense. Paying thirty bucks for a team movie just seems ridiculous. I know they put in the money, but there are ways to make it more valuable to sponsors than trying to get kids to pay 30 dollars for it. No wonder numbers aren't great. Make it free, make it a download and you won't have to loose sleep over people pirating it and you can use the insane number of downloads in your sponsor deck next year. instead of 15,000 sales we had 215,00 downloads. Which do you think sponsors want to hear? Also, as you may have guessed I have a little bit of personal grip with ROME. I have submitted footage that has been used in the last 2 movies on the premise of per shot payment and/or goods in exchange. I never got a thing, not even the respect of an email back, so yeah I HAVE BOTH THE ROME MOVIES ON FILE AND I DIDNT PAY FOR SHIT!!! THANK YOU! I think any “Team” Video should be free. It just makes sense. Paying thirty bucks for a team movie just seems ridiculous. I know they put in the money, but there are ways to make it more valuable to sponsors than trying to get kids to pay 30 dollars for it. No wonder numbers aren’t great. Make it free, make it a download and you won’t have to loose sleep over people pirating it and you can use the insane number of downloads in your sponsor deck next year. instead of 15,000 sales we had 215,00 downloads. Which do you think sponsors want to hear?

Also, as you may have guessed I have a little bit of personal grip with ROME. I have submitted footage that has been used in the last 2 movies on the premise of per shot payment and/or goods in exchange. I never got a thing, not even the respect of an email back, so yeah I HAVE BOTH THE ROME MOVIES ON FILE AND I DIDNT PAY FOR SHIT!!! THANK YOU!

]]> By: Ball Park http://www.shayboarder.com/2009/09/the-state-of-the-industry-with-john-cavan.html/comment-page-1#comment-8869 Ball Park Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:44:18 +0000 http://www.shayboarder.com/?p=7480#comment-8869 just curious why there was never any mention of Jonaven beeing cut? just curious why there was never any mention of Jonaven beeing cut?

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