Snowboard Review: 10-11 Burton Lip-stick Flying V

11 May, 2010


Location: Breckenridge, CO

Snow Conditions: Hardpacked snow conditions with overcast weather

Setup: I rode the Burton Lip-stick flying V with Burton lexa bindings and Vans Veil Boots size 8.

Size: 154cm

First Impression: Wow I actually prefer this board with V-rocker than Flying-V.

Weight: Average

Flex: The switch to Flying V stiffened up the lip-stick just a tad, it’s still stiffer between the bindings but it reaches further out than previous years so feels stiffer past the bindings but the nose/tail are a tad softer.  The reverse camber of the Flying V gives it some more stability on the mountain and you still have the quickness edge to edge and a bit more responsiveness from the board overall.  The switch to Flying V sacrificed the playfulness, it’s not as soft and it’s not as playful as last year.  The Flying V gives it reverse camber, V-rocker between the feet, underneath your feet are camber zones and rocker outside your feet to the tip and tail.

Turning: It’s still an easy board to maneuver into turns and small increase in stiffness helps on the longer drawn out S turns but the shorter turns still felt better on this board.  It has quick response from edge to edge, so you can make sharp turns down the mountain.  On the hardpacked conditions it was no problem holding an edge into a carve but on icy spots, I felt it slip more.

Stable: It’s improved from past year on stability and still it’s not meant to be a charging board but the new Flying V does help improve it. I ended up on some icy runs as Tom charged down them and the lip-stick barely wanted to hold an edge down them, not as stable and I needed to ride slower and make more turns.

Pop: There’s some increased pop from the camber underfoot and ollies are a higher than this year’s lipstick but it was a good poppy board to begin with.  I noticed it wasn’t as soft, easy to press and just play around with.  That was one of the things I loved about this board last year, it was a fun board to ride in and out of the park.  It’s more catch free with scoop tech which helped on boxes and it felt really comfortable in the park.

Switch: Directional flex but twin shape makes it a little off when you ride switch but nothing to deter from riding switch and still a easy board to handle switch riding.

Overall Impression: Of all the boards at the Burton demo the lip-stick enjoyed the biggest variety on the mountain from peak 8 & 9 for a good mix of freeriding to park.  In the park, the lip-stick was poppy although I was disappointed that it wasn’t as playful as the V-rocker version.  The reverse camber flying V gave it some more stability but the fun factor was left in the dust.  It was interesting to have both types to compare, from V-Rocker to Flying V.  They definitely each have their postives/negatives and I personally liked the more fun playful V-rocker than the Flying V which felt more natural on the Feelgood.

Shay’s Honesty Box: I trust companies to decide which boards feature which style of rocker/reverse camber/camber option but in the case of the lip-stick I 100% disagree with the decision of going from V-rocker to Flying V.  I rode the 09-10 lipstick with V-rocker and loved it, it suited the board perfectly and gave it that fun freestyle pop for a freestyle board.  The flying V makes it a board it’s not meant to be, it’s less fun and it takes away from the freestyle feeling the board is meant to have.  I can see why the feelgood is flying V, but the lipstick should have remained V-rocker.

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Burton Lip-stick V-Rocker description

Review Disclosure: I rode this board at a demo day.

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16 Comments

  1. May 12, 2010

    I demoed this for a good chunk of the day this winter, and I really like the flying v in general over the regular v-rocker. I felt like the board had so much better edgehold than with the v-rocker. Last year initially I thought the feelgood v-rocker was the best board I tested, but I’ve come to think its a little squirly at higher speeds. For me the Lipstick Flying V floated really well in the deeper snow, but still had the edgehold I was looking for. Great board!

  2. May 12, 2010

    Jenn, awesome to hear your thoughts on it too! Were you able to get on the Feelgood with Flying V? That board totally won me over with Flying V but I just like the lipstick better with V-rocker and especially for park riding.

  3. May 14, 2010

    Hi Shay,
    I did, but actually when it comes down to it I think I’m just a camber girl at heart. The Flying V on both boards just gave me that little extra edgehold. I’m used to riding the Gnu BPro C2 BTX, so it felt a little bit more in my comfort zone personally. Great to hear your thoughts on it though too!

  4. May 16, 2010

    Jenna, I definitely hear that on camber. I ride mostly reverse now but i still have a couple camber boards that I enjoy going back to. Sweet on the B-pro, that’s a great stick.

  5. Foxpuppet
    July 05, 2010

    Hi Shay, just a quick question, when you demo’ed the lippy what year bindings did you use?

    My wife just got the 2011 lippy after not being able to find for sale the 2010 she originally demo’ed in Japan this year. She has 2010 escapades and wants to know if they will work with the newer channel tech

  6. July 06, 2010

    Fox, I was using the burton lexa bindings with the lip-stick. Are her 2010 escapades EST?

  7. moira
    October 21, 2010

    Hey..I am thinking of getting the 2011 lipstick for this up coming season in a 149. I currently have the k2 vavavoom and I want this as a second board for the season. Do you think that this board is different enough from the k2 to have them both? Also, on my k2 I have the lexa bindings but they are not est…can i convert them to fit this years lipstick?
    cheers

  8. October 21, 2010

    Moira,

    Sweet on getting a new board. It’s different than your vavavoom, it’ll give you a bit more stablity and it’s not as soft but it’s not too different. What are you looking for in your second board?

    Yes you can use Lexa bindings with the ICS board, here’s a video that shows how to set it up. You just have to the disc from Burton.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJKQUniz1-I

  9. Shayna
    January 18, 2011

    Hey! I am a an all-mountain rider and would consider myself advanced. I have had the 2004 Burton Feather 143 for pretty much my entire riding career. I am wanting to move to a more advanced board and was thinking about this one. I’m looking to start doing stuff in the park and riding switch, but I also love trees and going fast all over the mountain. Any thoughts?

  10. January 20, 2011

    Shayna, the feelgood flying V would definitely be more advanced than your feather which will help you progress to the next level. Definitely could still do stuff in the park with it but also ride the trees and go fast on the mountain.

  11. April 07, 2011

    Hey

    I’m looking to purchase my first board as I usually just hire when we go away but fancy getting my own now. I can’t decide if the v-rocker or the flying-v would be better for me. I definitely know I wanna burton board and quite like the look of the burton lipstick 10/11 model… I wouldn’t say I was beginner anymore probably on the verge of intermediate and I am not fussed about the park as of yet. Just love being on the mountain. Any advice?

    Thanks in advance!

  12. April 07, 2011

    Ah also… I’ve been riding a 145 (I know it’s a tad on the small size for being 5ft 4) is there any problems to this?! I know I should be getting between a 147 and a 150 for my height and weight. I find it so much easier to control and don’t fancy practising on a bigger board yet ha thanks again!

  13. April 07, 2011

    Nikki, what’s your weight? The lipstick is a fun board but more freestyle focused and doesn’t hold as well on ice. If you are riding more mountain, more intermediate progressing riding I’d look at the feelgood over the lipstick.

  14. April 08, 2011

    Haha I don’t go up when it’s icey – not a fan. I’m about 120lbs… I’ve found a great deal on the lipstick. I’ll have a look at the feelgood now!

    Thanks 🙂