Comments on: Snowboard Review: 09-10 Never Summer Premier F1-R

By: Shay

Shay — Fri, 22 Apr 2011 02:26:15 +0000

Osmike, I haven’t ridden any palmers so it’d be hard to compare without riding them. I’d see if any shops nearby have any never summer demos or I know Whistler telus has demo days but that’s the only way to know for sure. If you already have the F1 then try riding it and see how you like it.

By: osmike

osmike — Mon, 18 Apr 2011 20:42:09 +0000

i have been riding a palmer channel titanium 163 with a sintered base for the last while its as stiff as they come and bullet proof

will my 163 f-1 we as stable in the crap as the palmer was

this is my 23 year riding i live in bc

thanks

By: Shay

Shay — Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:12:10 +0000

Ben, I haven’t taken the premier F1 deliberately on bumps because I prefer not to ride them myself. Definitely in the trees and bumpy powder, the boards held up. Are you able to hit up a NS demo day in Colorado?

By: Ben

Ben — Sun, 13 Feb 2011 19:56:27 +0000

Shay, I was curious how you felt the 157 f1 would do in the bumps. I really enjoy riding the moguls and spend a good amount of time in the trees and bumps and Mary Jane, I also am looking for a damper board, getting a bit older:) Thanks for the insight. BR

By: Shay

Shay — Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:33:04 +0000

Cole, the premier is a more intermediate advanced snowboard. For the first board after renting, it’d be a lot of an adjustment and your riding might not be up for it yet. Have you looked at the SL, that’s more all mountain freestyle and will handle pow and groomers.

By: Cole

Cole — Wed, 24 Nov 2010 07:42:30 +0000

Hey Shay,

I’m looking to buy a board, I’ve rented unitl now, and the premiers caught my eye. I switch fairly often so would the premier f1 be better for me? I never go into the park but do pow and groomed.

By: Ca-Pow

Ca-Pow — Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:58:59 +0000

Hi Shay,

First off love your website and your reviews. You are awesome! I’ve been riding for 21 years and what you do for this great sport is wonderful! Much respect! My home Mountain is Mammoth and I usually visit Park City, Utah in March. Favorite riding day would be dodging trees in light powder on a steep run. Reality is it’s resort riding most of the time but at pretty great places. This season I’ve been the demo man for my Ride Timeless 163 finally couldn’t be repaired again. 🙁 So I dove back into equipment/companies/technologies and have been evaluating since November 09. Yesterday, at The Canyons I made last run of the year. The board that was my favorite oddly enough is the Never Summer Premier F1. Oddly, since you have tested many more board than me and have come to the same conclusion. However, I’m contemplating the 2011 Heritage for I heard it floats better in Powder because it’s a mid-wide, also it is lighter, and a little softer when you need that playfulness. That said I didn’t ride a Heritage and wouldn’t want to give up these aspects of what I loved about the F1. They were as follows; Skating on this board, as goofy as it sounds, is actually fun and distinctly easier than any other board, If the Heritage is quicker edge to edge I would be shocked, stability at high speeds was AMAZING!!!, rode through icy, cruddy, crusty, slushy, groomers, and a little powder and it held an edge better than Magne-traction on the hard stuff, didn’t overly dig in like the Magne-traction on the softer stuff, completely predictable in all turning situations coupled with an old Cadillac-like suspension feel, flat-footing it for speed the board never felt like it would catch an edge or for that matter it never caught an edge all day and lastly It gave me so much confidence it pushed my riding level up a notch or two. I know I should probably just get the F1 but since I have till next year I was hoping to get your thoughts on these two boards. Has NS made any adjustments other than the graphics on the 2011 F1.

Sorry for long post but for the record if any one has questions about the following boards here is my 09’/10 demo list. Burton Custom, Supermodel, Custom V-Rocker, Joystick. Arbor Roundhouse & Abacus. Lib-Tech Travis Rice BTX, TRS, Travis Rice CTX and Skate Banana. Never Summer Premier F1.

By: Shay

Shay — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 03:08:12 +0000

Natch, reverse camber makes powder a lot easier to ride and you don’t work as hard to stay afloat…plus you can ride centered over your board instead of in the backseat. I prefer reverse camber in powder by far.

Craig, you can size down with the F1-R but depends on what you’ll be riding more frequently. I ride a 157cm Lotus which I sized down to from cambered 159 premier and it works for me in that size. I’d say the 157 for you will be fine but depends on your riding style, where you ride and the conditions you plan to ride the most.

Ipps, it can handle the pipe…but the only complaint with it in pipe is stance options since it’s setback and you might ride switch in the pipe it’s not ideal but can do it. All of the above on the powder, trees and outside resort riding. I ride my lotus (men’s version of premier) in the pipe all the time and enjoy it, it does fine for being a freeride board.

By: ipps

ipps — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 03:49:14 +0000

Hey shay, im on the hunt for a board thatll ride powder, trees and stuff just outside resort (not serious back country), going into my fourth season, but also want to start messing around on the pipe (so need something pretty forgiving). This board definitely seems to tick the box on the first point, and i know with a proper rider behind it, the pipes not a problem, would you advise i steer clear?

By: Craig

Craig — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:12:14 +0000

Hi Shay,

I was curious as to what your thoughts were on choosing the size for an F1R – we don’t really get the chance to demo boards down here… I’m about 5 ft 7 and weigh 165 lbs. I’m guessing that either the 157 or 159 would suit but was wondering which one you would recommend?

Thanks!