Comments on: Snowboard Review: 10-11 Jones Mountain Twin

By: Peter

Peter — Thu, 30 Sep 2010 14:57:06 +0000

Thanks Shannon! Excellent review as always. I am still a little undecided though. I want to love the board, but may opt to a NS. I’ll keep you posted.
Pete

By: Joe T

Joe T — Mon, 20 Sep 2010 03:04:05 +0000

Yo Guys,
I want to to jump in while the conversation is still hot. Ohhh all of the different camber stories. This is a ploy specifically designed to confuse and mis-lead the consumer in to buying something they don’t want…… Well, maybe not really, but here is the thing. It is obvious, riding rocker makes the board float better and turn quicker. On the flip-side, no rocker, or rocker camber/C2/camrock mix, will ever make a board turn and hold an edge or ollie like full camber.
That being said, the industry is in a dogfight right now to see who will pop out the rocker board that comes the closest, because the whole idea is to have one board for everything, right?
Go to your local demos or shops and demo boards, this is by far the best way to decide. The idea of Camrock (YES/Jones) is that you have a shorter effective edge, but it is complete, from binding to binding giving the board a slightly more traditional feel. C2, V-rock, and everything else will still give you that edge hold, but by splitting the camber under each foot, It gives the rider a little more individual foot steering if that makes sense.
Lastly, for board sizing, don’t go bigger. The rocker is designed to make shorter boards float better without having to jump up a size into a potentially more cumbersome board. If you do go up, you will achieve slightly more edge hold, but then you are defeating the purpose of the rocker boards. Banana Tech will always have less effective edge because the edges curve away from the snow, imagine riding a wakeboard on snow, it would feel similar.

Hope this helps!

By: Dylan

Dylan — Sun, 19 Sep 2010 21:14:24 +0000

Great review. How would you compare a jones or yes board (camrock) to a rossignol board(amptek)? Also how would you compare camrock or ampek to lib techs c2, or never summers tech?

By: Patrick

Patrick — Thu, 12 Aug 2010 06:38:05 +0000

Curious to if you rode the 155 or 158? I did not see the 157 size listed on the Jones Snowboard site. Also curious how you would suggest sizing a board with camrock? It seems to be the opposite of C2 and Banana tech. I have friends with skis that have camber under foot and rocker tip and tail and they tend to size up a little bit from normal due to a shorter contact length than that of a normal camber ski in the same size. Curious if you think that this school of thought should apply to camrock with YES and Jones boards. Banana tech seems to have a longer contact length for the board size than a normal camber board would in the same size, this is the Lib Tech argument that they gave me for sizing down a little bit.
Thanks for reviewing this board, hope to see you review more of the Jones lineup. Also wondering where to look for these I can’t find a shop here in Montana that is carrying them this coming winter.

By: masl

masl — Mon, 07 Jun 2010 12:39:12 +0000

try all… i rode the new Dark Series c2BTX, a new Nidecker Camrock (wich is the same because Jones is build by Nideker), a NS SL-R and a Signal Omni with Wavelength. C2 by Mervin and NS are comparable, but riding is completely different, Camrock and Wavelength are comparable, riding is similar. Camrock und NS are the stable ones, C2 and Wavelength are more lively.

By: keither

keither — Thu, 03 Jun 2010 11:36:15 +0000

C2 is the bomb bizzle. I’m lovin the fact that companies have opened their minds to new shapes and designs. Look how far we’ve come from the cambered/capped crap of ten years ago. For me, all this new tech is a matter of preference. Some people like C2, some like camrock, others zero camber. And even still, some love camber and despise anything else. Some love MTX, some hate it. Try them all if you can, because they all have their own perks. Except for camber (opinion). Camber sucks.

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By: JT

JT — Wed, 02 Jun 2010 23:46:45 +0000

Thanks for posting this review. I really want to grab one of these decks for next season!

By: oxi

oxi — Wed, 02 Jun 2010 19:06:56 +0000

How does it ride though? Camrock to me looks like a toned down camber board? Would it be more stable than the C2/RC then? Thx thx!

By: JP

JP — Wed, 02 Jun 2010 17:47:17 +0000

Thanks for the review, I have been waiting to hear about the Jones lineup. looks like my initial thoughts are confirmed. These boards just may be too much for the resort rider. I think I will be sticking with the NS Premier I picked up at the end of the season rather then trying the Mountain Twin or the Flagship. I am sure these are sick boards when in their element, but for the east coast and occasional trip out West, I wouldn’t even tap half their potential.

Oxi: Camrock is pretty much the opposite of C2 or Never Summer’s RC tech. As Shay mentioned, Jones uses slight camber underfoot leading to raised tip and tail. C2 and RC are rocker with a slight camber outside of the binding inserts.